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Re: MORE SC

Postby SC Racefan » Wed Jul 28, 2010 12:28 am

Oh, in my previous post, I forgot to say that I want to give a HUGE pat on the back to the track prep folks. I also believe that the SCS track racing surface has always been as well prepared as possible. One of the raciest around. A HUGE attaboy goes out to the guys who make that happen every week. Without your hard work, the show wouldn't happen. Keep up the good work guys!
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Re: MORE SC

Postby ColemanRacing911 » Thu Jul 29, 2010 3:04 pm

I don't understand why fans complain about the length of a show? Don't you want to get your money's worth? I do understand getting worked up when it takes more than 1 or two laps to get cars lined up and it drives us drivers nuts too. A quick show means that the drivers who have problems or get tore up in the heat race have have no chance to get their cars fixed for the feature. Years ago the races took 4 or 5 hours and were never over before 11 or 12 and I don't remember anyone complaining back then. I have heard fans throw a fit when the cars took pace laps before each feature to roll in the top side of the track but if you don't take the time to get it rolled in during the heat races it's a mess by the feature. The dust sucks and makes for a bad fan experience and a horrible driving experience but those occasions are few and far between and the last one was out of the promoters control since the water truck broke down. As far as the Outlaw hobbies go sure us 9:1 hobbies can run with them and yes we can keep up BUT there are some of them that throw a horse under the hood and can't control it. Their driving style is to throw it in the corner and diamond both corners which 1 makes it impossible to get around them while running a true line and it tears up cars when they throw it in underneath you and they slide up into you. My brother and I went to Burlington a couple years ago and made the show with about 30 cars most of them outlaw. The guys at Burlington were a pretty good group of guys but we did have our issues trying to drive a common hobby line. The Outlaws have 2 tracks in the area they can run and the 9:1's have 1 and I guarantee you they will loose cars if they open it up. I think more 9:1's will start making the drive now that Bloomfield is done for the year. As far as the Mods are concerned I think they need two classes, the motors for the A mods cost upwards of $10,000 or more which is crazy for someone who just wants to race an open wheeled car. I have no problem with 2 Mod classes or the 4 banger class since it gives guys who want to race more options depending on their budget. Now for the Late Models... I used to enjoy watching late models run but in the last few years the races have turned into follow the leader and see if you can tell who is in first. And racing with them.... ha! I despise having to race on a track that the late models have been on because the track is so d@mn dry slick a crash is inevitable.

I had planned on making more races at SCS this year but work, motor problems and the Douds road being closed have left my car in the garage on Saturday nights. The Douds road is open again but if the Outlaws come back the car may very well stay home on Saturdays.

Here are the 4 things I think they are going to need to bring in cars:
Decent Payout
Reasonable Pit Pass (Osky is $25 with the same payout or lower than last year which is a crock)
Tech man that is allowed to DQ cars that he finds to be illegal and one that checks more than just the carb
Good track prep - not usually an issue

And the things needed to bring fans:
Reasonable gate fee - I think it was $8 which is pretty good
Fan appreciation nights - Saw a bunch of them this year - Good
Something for the kids - Not sure if they did anything this year, hard to tell from the pits
Reasonably priced food and beverages - Prices were normal in the pits
Good track prep - If you can't see the cars on the back stretch your not coming back
Wreckers, Wreckers, Wreckers - Nobody wants to sit and watch them clear wrecked cars from the track for 20 minutes. These cars have bars at the front and the back, lift the hood or the truck, hook 'em and drag them off.

This is my 2 cents and I applaud anyone who is willing to take on the responsibility of promoting a track to give us a place to race.

I would also like to thank Wayne for all of his hard work earlier in the year.

Shawn Coleman
911 9:1 Hobby
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Re: MORE SC

Postby 4dracingcrew » Thu Jul 29, 2010 5:24 pm

Shawn. The 9:1 cars only have 1 track to race at? I don't know where you live but there is quite a few tracks in the area where you can race. I do agree with the 9:1 though. Hopefully some tracks introduce IMCA Hobby Stocks around here.
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Re: MORE SC

Postby ColemanRacing911 » Thu Jul 29, 2010 7:04 pm

I'm in Packwood, IA. We have Osky now that Bloomfield is done. Eldon is only running one more race and everything else is at least 2 hours away.
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Re: MORE SC

Postby SC Racefan » Fri Jul 30, 2010 6:29 pm

I'm not going to start or get in an online argument about a track or racing. It's retarded and I hate it. But I feel compelled to make one last comment then I will shut up. I read Shawn's post and agree with a lot of what he says. But I want to make a statement regarding his opening theme of "Why do fans complain about length of show?" It's simple. We fans want to bring our families and friends who are probably not as hard core as we are about racing. It's not as much fun to attend a race by yourself than if your family and friends go with you. And those folks will not tolerate shows that exceed the length of a normal sporting event or evening outing (i.e.- 3 hours). I respect and understand Shawn's thought about "most bang for your buck". He's hard core like me. But, others aren't, and ultimately, racing is entertainment competing for the dollar alongside of movies, restaurants, ball games, etc. You have to draw that "moderate" fan week after week, not just the "hard core- race all night" fan. It is the failure to recognize this which has doomed many otherwise well run tracks. I repeat what I said earlier. You don't always have to agree with the fans, BUT YOU MUST LISTEN TO THEM!!! If not, then no track will ever stay in business. And folks, it IS a business. To think otherwise is foolish. Please learn the lesson that NASCAR is still trying to learn: what racers want and what fans want, are usually two different things, and NOT listening to the fans dooms your sport. Just look at attendance even at national touring series events. To think that that dynamic does not hold true locally is ducking your head in the sand. Okay, I surrender, I'm sure I will be shouted down by hordes of drivers now. That's fine. But understand, many fans like myself will not tolerate business as usual thinking at the racetrack. We want to see real signs that are interests are at heart. That's how you grow the fan base. And as I've said in every other post I've made, SCS is one of the raciest facilities in the midwest. Keep on rollin' baby!
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Re: MORE SC

Postby Roboman7s » Sun Aug 01, 2010 5:18 pm

Hey all I want to know is........................what are the rules going to be??? If we are going to have this meeting lets get it done that way we have an idea as to what is going on and what we need to do, because right now everybody is just up in the air and that just makes it hard on Drivers and fans.

Then we can decide if we are going to make it down for the rest of the year or not.



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